so ready I have 10 minutes in the time so I will try not to tire you
and I will try to make it even shorter because I know you are already caught
here so how many of you are useful here know what a cms is raise your hand
without being ashamed and those who don't know get the camera to write in the
minutes that almost everyone raised how many in here know what a lms
learning management system is a lot of hands well done but not
10 how many in here sit down bro it messed up in the
download show it to my mom to say that I'm talking come on I'm joking
let's talk and thank you to the digital challenge that gave me it has a stand for
mobile phones so how many of you here know what an lcms is and what are the
differences of lms should be written in the minutes that there
is no one ok fine that's good I won't tell you the difference because
I only have 10 minutes so I'm Giannis the yalamas and I'm an educator
my main job is this and in my hobby I also make some websites
but because I've been an educator for the last 15 years literally 15
I've been building online classes sometimes with success sometimes with resounding
failure and the reason it's usually resounding failure is because no
cms I've found that suits me and I've never seen a person be
happy with some cms I will talk to you today about a
platform that is not open source so another thank you to wordcamp
for inviting us to show it and I will say some advantages and
disadvantages I do not represent the platform so we're just doing a
benchmarking, a few years ago I spoke at the 13th Larissa wordpress meetup,
I think it was the 18th and I spoke about
a wordpress plugin called learnpress which I used
a lot to create online classes for my students back then
I was an instructor in high schools and in the metal level, now I am in the wolf and
post-high school level, so the needs have not changed
too much, but I also did a all the sponsors who are
here are all involved in the service provider and hosting providing for
websites and shops, but no one is specialized in the part of the
learning management system, i.e. how to create electronic classes,
one of the reasons is because usually the largest part of the
pie in the market has been taken by moodle which logically those of you who have been to an educational institution at least once
have entered a moodle and we hated it
I'm sure especially in public bodies if I'm wrong so that
in the presentation that is still on the speakers deck, i.e. if you search
with the 13th wordpress me here I explain the definitions
of what is a learning management system and what is a learning content learning
management system are different things mainly they give you the possibility
to edit with your students to your teachers your classes
your educational material to make your own material in there and above all to
see some learning analytics unfortunately learnpress has
disappointed me and this so with another job I have
where it is through it of the non-governmental organization of prv
we were invited as technology partners to build for a school
the 6th vespers of Larissa a year ago to build an electronic
learning platform where for an erasmus plus program where the students would the
teachers would be trained in the use of vr and how then through it they could
train other students, the program is called vet vr kit and as technology
partners we used a platform called
s corse, I say again I am not a representative of eic we just do
benchmarking I will tell you my opinion at the end and I won't tell you much about the
project so as not to tire you, I will only tell you that because of the project we created
another meetup if anyone here belongs to the educational community and
is interested in technology in education very soon we will do
the second tech in education meetup again which we did in the city of Larissa
a few months ago so the platform is this I can show you but
since I don't know how much time we have I will say a few comparative things otherwise
you can enter to see her is vet vrp why we chose sg course like
learning content management system and not wordpress or
moodle purely out of curiosity mainly because no
other platform served us spoiler alert yet no
platform serves us here I say it says some things about what e corse is which is
mainly aimed at
teachers who do not have much technical knowledge nor am I
an expert in web development so I can't catch up I wish I could catch up on
situations I'm an average user who used to write code
but now I haven't stopped because I've been behind due to other commitments so if
someone knows how to make a website and knows how to configure users,
knows how to configure categories, tags, etc. he can probably do what
I say now he will be able to do it through wordpress when I have 3 minutes
fine now I will show you this is the its environment is very similar to
wordpress, its page builder is very similar to
elementor but not so much it is more difficult to use so one difference is this
I will go straight to the differences unfortunately neither sg corse nor wordpress
but they do not have learning analytics which are the most important things in a
learning platform if you don't have learning analytics either as an administrator or
as a course designer or as a teacher and trainer
you don't do anything you don't make your course better you can do it with a
website that simply uploads educational material with learning learning
analytics, however, you can make learning more personalized, the
educational process and be able to improve how
your students learn, it doesn't make responsive sites, it doesn't have many add
ons, it doesn't have good value for money, and it's not because it's not open source,
it doesn't you can customize it as you want we found these along the way
so we just experimented to have a tool so I come here to
tell you my experience so I'm not telling you to use it or not the
advantages are that it has an easy design it has a lot of templates the
which are ready for educational use
you can easily create classes and courses you can easily manage
the roles of teachers and students enroll them in courses
make them supervisors etc. currently has a very large community that
is constantly growing
but it is expensive so they have the courage and audacity in
their website to compare them with other lcms the teachable the think fix and
so on in some they are superior in some but they are lagging behind this is the
worst minus the cost so you can do it in a few hours
on wordpress if you find a developer
unfortunately you have to pay a lot of money to do it through e
corse however e corse is two years old wordpress when was it founded
it's nice so it's so e corse is right now what
wordpress was in 2006 let's put it on our scales that
very likely at some point in the future we will hear it again now the percentage it
holds in the market is 0, 01% very small at the moment when wordpress has 46
how much 43 wordpress drops wordpress and some others take from it
so well I won't tell you the prices you can enter to see so
the question to close is the following would you recommend it to a user not if
he doesn't have many projects if he has only one project not in any case
but if you have many learning projects for economy of scale you can
use the e course because it will reward you the time it will take to
make the transition what do they call time to learn cost time to learn cost so the
cost to learn it if you have many projects maybe there is a value
for money if you only have one project like we had I would tell you
avoid it we don't have time for questions because we already have another or
another speech thank you very much what you need you can find me let's
talk